To become a psychiatrist, do I need to go to grad school and med school, or is just med school possible?
To become a practicing clinical psychiatrist after undergrad (at a hospital or private practice), is it at all possible to go right into med school, or does one always have to go through a graduate program first.
And another question: what degrees must be obtained to become a forensic psychologist. Just graduate school after undergrad, or something in addition to that?
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March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 am
GreenOak, you are completely and utterly wrong on practically all accounts. Pills, brain surgery, and electroshock are by no means the only methods of psychiatry. A psychiatrist does not do brain surgeries, a surgeon does. Psychiatry has nothing whatsoever to do with surgery, and if you get a degree in psychiatry, it does not mean you can perform one. Psychiatrist also consult, and can do all that a psychologist does as well as prescribe medications. And ECT is rarely if ever used, and only for depression in the most severe of cases, where nothing else has helped. And while there is a huge risk involved in doing so, there are proven results. And psychiatrists do not prescribe illegal drugs – if one contains the substances you have described, they are not in the form of street drugs and are no more dangerous than any other prescribed medication. Any psychiatrist worth a damn does not throw drugs at a patient, but rather explores other options first. And there is no quarrel between psychologists and psychiatrists, they are in the same field and use most of the same treatments. And as to “not playing with psychiatry”, you know absolutely nothing about it except some twisted, incorrect information with such a ridiculous bias that all the facts mean practically nothing. Psychiatry is not some twisted science that is only out to drug patients into a coma. The idiotic rants you subscribe to will not save anyone’s life, but will most likely put it in danger instead. And might I add, your useless uninformed opinion on psychiatry was not asked, nor did anyone want an explanation of the difference between psychology and psychiatry. It was asked what education will be needed to obtain a degree in psychiatry. Education you clearly do not have. You are an insult to everything that breathes, and you should keep your harmful, pathetic opinion to yourself unless you’re willing to look at actual facts and data. And I’m not saying that you’re not allowed to have an opinion on psychiatry, negative or positive, just make sure you get your fucking facts straight – and I guarantee you that virtually all of your facts are completely and utterly false. You are helping no one. Please do the world a favor and shut up.
March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 am
The difference between psychiatrist and psychologist is that the former has a medical degree, while the latter has completed a prescribed course of study in a graduate program. Additionally, the psychiatrist has the medical knowledge to prescribe pharmaceuticals, and differentiate between possible medical causes for a mental problem. The psychologist engages in therapy very similar to that of the psychiatrist, but must rely upon a psychiatrist to prescribe and regulate any drugs that would help recovery. It is more likely that the psychologist would conduct group therapy sessions, while the psychiatrist conducts individual therapy sessions. Also there is a considerable amount of time difference in pursuing the two degrees. Medical school is 4 years post college, and 3-4 years post that in an internship and residency program. The psychology degree can be 3-4 years post college period. Income will vary depending on the location of the practice, the amount of time the individual wants to spend in a clinic, office or hospital setting each day. Good Luck!
March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 am
There’s a difference. Psychologists are not doctors from medical viewpoint and can’t prescribe you pills, perform a brain surgery or give you an electroshock. If they think you should take pills, they should send you to a psychiatrist. Psychiatrist is a doctor from medical viewpoint and can give you pills, electroshock or brain surgery which are the only methods psychiatry uses. Brain surgeries like prefrontal lobotomy found its place in horror movies where it belongs and is disappearing from psychiatry. Electroshocks are still being given to the people despite no results and serious damage caused to the patients. Modern psychiatry focuses on drugs. Psychiatrists prescribed LSD, cocaine, heroine and ecstasy as medicine in the past and their modern drugs are said to be even more dangerous. Some psychiatrists however may be using alternative methods or psychology but that is not psychiatry. Psychiatry has been using 1) brain surgeries 2) shocks (not only electroshocks but also insulin shocks) 3) drugs. Psychology was always more about talking to you, listening to you and explaining things for you and giving you advices what you should do. However, psychology is indeed a mixture of different theories written by different authors - there is really no ONE psychology. Psychologists and Psychiatrists didn’t like each other in the beginning due to completely different approach which is more than obvious but as time passed they learnt to get along somehow.
I wouldn’t play with psychiatry at all - see the vids below.
school
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAeABmVOS0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSZ9YTnSkLc
A must see new document - story told by psychiatrists, psychologists and other professionals - it CAN save your life
Watch trailer 1:55 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV0J5EsYKuw (the whole DVD free to watch online)
The whole document
http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-introduction
Alternatively
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPUHUpfDVgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128